FreeDNS

(freedns.afraid.org)

178 points | by esher 4 hours ago

17 comments

  • 8organicbits 1 hour ago
    I've used FreeDNS on occasion for test domain names, one-off experiments, and similar. I'm very appreciative this exists, but there are some pain points that similar services handle better.

    The domains are missing from the public suffix list. This impacts how cookies are handled by the domain names, with concerns the browser will allow software to set the cookie on the shared domain name instead of the subdomain. This can be a security problem. Getting added to the PSL may not happen: https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/pull/79

    It can be difficult to get a free HTTPS certificate for your subdomain. Let's Encrypt applies per-domain name rate limits and these domain names see lots of issuance requests. There's a process to lift those limits, but last I checked FreeDNS didn't use it. You can still, of course, pay for a certificate.

    There's tons of abuse on free domains so you may find that your domain is blocked on various lists.

    Here are some compelling alternatives I use now, which manage these issues better:

    - https://messwithdns.net/ - Exceptionally well-made DNS console for learning DNS

    - https://open-domains.com/ - Uses Cloudflare, great Discord group

    - Even more: https://free.hrsn.dev/#/?id=domains

    • turblety 50 minutes ago
      The entire publicsuffix thing is such a mess. The fact that project even exists is ridiculous. Why can this not be a dns setting?
      • bombcar 4 minutes ago
        because, like everything, bad guys would abuse it, causing a list of "bad publicsuffix" to exist, which is basically the same thing.
  • hattmall 3 hours ago
    This is one of the most solid and longest lasting services online. Have been using it for almost two decades I think and nothing's changed.
    • itsamario 2 hours ago
      Why dns is a topic eludes me because they all forward to root hint servers.

      Why doesn't everyone just use their IANA resolvers?

      • kijeda 1 hour ago
        You're conflating two different concepts: DNS hosting, and DNS resolving.

        This service seems to offer hosting services, i.e. publishing your domain's records in the DNS in DNS authoritative servers.

        A DNS resolution service looks up and maintains large caches of DNS data on your behalf, optimizing DNS lookups by not requiring your own device to recursively query many different DNS servers. These lookups start by querying the DNS root zone, which is published by the DNS's authoritative servers which are listed in the root hints file.

  • tylerius 2 hours ago
    Their backup DNS service is great, so you can run your own DNS with just one server.

    https://nic.eu.org/ is also very cool for getting a domain name if paying for one is a challenge.

  • IgorPartola 2 hours ago
    This looks so much like https://dns.he.net/ that it seems to me it can’t be a coincidence. Is this a case of copying a well known design or is there more to it?
    • cbg0 2 hours ago
      The "portal" layout style was very popular on Web 1.0, reminds me of PHP-Nuke.
      • makmanalp 2 hours ago
        omg, invoking php-nuke brings me back. fun era (recent php2shell wild ride notwithstanding). Honestly it's more like web 1.5 - not straight up hand written html but no wild client side stuff either.

        And yes, there absolutely was a "look" that's a product of the technology of the time - tables for design, limited styling / js support, php "components" that you could load and replace as part of your portal, and "themes".

        • baq 47 minutes ago
          and it's so fast. clicks respond instantaneously even though the whole page has to be fetched and re-rendered.

          we lost so much with SPAs and js everywhere.

          htmx will save us!

      • brnt 2 hours ago
        > PHP-Nuke

        There's a name I haven't heard in a while!

    • jstanley 2 hours ago
      Doesn't look that similar to me, they both just look a bit old.
    • garaetjjte 2 hours ago
      It's possible they are both descendants from XName: https://web.archive.org/web/20120625081138/http://source.xna...
    • srik 2 hours ago
      I wouldn't think much of it. It was a popular design trend for a while there; some just never updated. I don't blame them, it's fairly decent on readability and minimalism.
  • baq 3 hours ago
    Happy freeloader for something like 15 years, can recommend
    • tracker1 2 hours ago
      I have a couple domains (notably BBS.io) with them for people to use as ddns sub domains. Pretty happy overall.
  • amelius 3 hours ago
    I am interested, but I have some questions that don't seem to be addressed in the about us page:

    How well is continuation guaranteed?

    What if someone buys them? Or the maintainer stops for whatever reason?

    • gertop 2 hours ago
      afraid.org has been there offering free DNS hosting since the year 2000, 26 years

      Whilst it would be nice to know their contingency and continuity plans, I feel like their history is a better indicator of the future than just a bunch of feel-good words that you'd likely find a way to interpret pesssimisticly anyway.

      • jrmg 1 hour ago
        An answer to "what happens if the administrator of this dies?" doesn't require feel-good words to answer clearly.
        • amelius 38 minutes ago
          I'm super grateful for free projects, but people gotta understand that depending on the type of project users still need some kind of guarantees before they can invest time in them. And this has nothing to do with "being pessimistic". And if maintainers can give good answers to such questions, then this will only make their project stronger and everybody more happy.
          • Wolfbeta 6 minutes ago
            "gotta understand", "free projects", "need some kind of guarantees", "'invest' time", "give good answers".

            Do you hear yourself?

            • bombcar 2 minutes ago
              It's more amazing that they don't realize that anything given or guaranteed wouldn't be worth anything, anyway.
      • Vaushite 25 minutes ago
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    • nullsanity 31 minutes ago
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  • kemotep 2 hours ago
    So to get this straight this is just hosted DNS? Like Route53? They aren’t a registrar or anything?

    So you could pay for hosted DNS and then use them as the name server and other DNS records for multiple domains that you have?

    • xianwen 2 hours ago
      It is like Route53. However, you cannot buy domain names from FreeDNS.

      You can use FreeDNS as a name server and manage domain name records, like A records, cname, and MX records. You can have a dynamic domain name too.

      You can also obtain free sub domain names from those who use FreeDNS as the name server and offer free sub domain names.

      • kemotep 1 hour ago
        I will definitely keep them in mind. Thanks!
  • pavinjoseph 1 hour ago
    Every once in a while, HN surfaces absolute gems like this. Bookmarked and thanks to esher!
  • frrlpp 29 minutes ago
    Johsh is a great sysadmin.
  • rlonstein 2 hours ago
    One of the 5,000+ premium members. I've been using them as a secondary and for dynamic dns since... I have no idea for how long but much further back than 2015 when I started using a password manager that keeps history, probably circa 2005.
  • esher 4 hours ago
    I am a free tier sucker. I use it for testing DNS setups with our hosting platform. But I love it. Maybe some exposure helps to bring some paying customers.
  • zulux 3 hours ago
    This is awesome. I'll use them as a backup DNS service; the paid version is significantly cheaper than spinning up a new domain server with the cheapest provider I know.

    Not to downplay my own skills, but their OpenBSD infrastructure is a good idea. They'll be up when my DNS servers are down.

  • assimpleaspossi 2 hours ago
    Can someone explain how and why and when this would be used?
    • electrotype 2 hours ago
      I use one of their "dynamic domain" as a stable address to point to my home computer : example.mooo.com instead of using the IP. They provide an endpoint for a cron to update this IP each X time.
    • doublerabbit 38 minutes ago
      When you want to host your own nameserver but to lazy to configure it on your colocated server. Yet you have requirements that require a nameserver.

      I've been paying customer for years. Branded nameservers are great, the web ui is janky and dated but seriously robust.

      Support is lacking as for a while afraid.org has had an SSL cert error, very annoying.

    • mistrial9 2 hours ago
      similarly, someone please explain why a free citizen would voluntarily use a Google DNS service that builds profiles and extensive activity records on its users
      • TheSkyHasEyes 2 hours ago
        Is this meant to be snarky? I don't get it. To them, it is a sincere question.
  • Velocifyer 2 hours ago
    If you're having trouble connecting, turn off your proxy/VPN.
  • rvz 2 hours ago
    Site has been hugged to death.

    Free services are never free. It is only free because someone else is paying.

    I don’t use this but “hoping” that someone else will donate is not sustainable for them and unrealistic in the long term.

    Maybe they should start charging.

    • teddyh 1 hour ago
      > Free services are never free. It is only free because someone else is paying.

      That’s what “free” means. Otherwise, nothing is “free” except maybe sunlight.

    • assimpleaspossi 2 hours ago
      Well, they've been around for 14 years. And they do charge for some services.
      • ibejoeb 2 hours ago
        Looks like they've been around for 25 years.
        • rvz 1 hour ago
          Exactly. Because someone else is paying. It was never "free" and there is always a cost.

          They still need to pay for the servers and bandwidth and fight the abuse by malicious users using the service for bad intentions.